Date: 2017-09-01 01:51 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: chiara (chiara)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
And when really in doubt ASK a trans person!

We don't bite! :o)

Date: 2017-09-04 07:20 pm (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
Well yeah.

Meanwhile, we can use this guide to answer all the simplest questions without asking you to explain it all over & over again. (In theory, anyway.)

Date: 2017-09-01 03:31 pm (UTC)
arlie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arlie
Sadly, some of every group *do* bite. For a perhaps amusingly relevant example, see https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2017/6/07/i-was-recently-informed-im-not-transsexual

But I have a chip on my shoulder in this area. If I believe all the self-appointed experts, I'm none of: man, woman, trans, or queer. It's frankly easier to pass as whatever I'm being taken as this week, than to try to communicate with those a naive person would expect to be my natural allies. [And apologies for mixing nouns and adjectives in the above list - I originally wrote 'male, female, trans, or queer' but that invites a lecture about gender 101 - people with gender-identification generally insist on nouns rather than adjectives for that identity, or did so last time I was taking notes.]

Date: 2017-09-01 03:59 pm (UTC)
arlie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arlie
Sorry - that was supposed to be a reply to the poster above me. I *like* the article referred to. The corrections in the example make it seem much more appropriate, and sometimes in ways I probably wouldn't have noticed if I'd simply read the opriginal in a news article. And the text following takes an attitude I like.

Date: 2017-09-01 04:23 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I take the view that 'woman' does for me as I've been one for a very long time! :o) A lot of LGBT folks get mighty puzzled when informed that I'm trans, straight and married- married (whisper it) to a cis guy.

'But, but, you have to be queer'! Who says?

I've been around long enough (transitioned at fifteen back in the seventies and am now sixty) to have seen people tying themselves in knots with the latest replacement for the term over and over again.

Gender confused? The one thing I was never confused about was my gender! And that was by no means the worst of them.
Edited Date: 2017-09-01 06:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-09-04 09:00 am (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
That style guide is another good thing about living in the future: such a thing already exists, and lots and lots of people can see (and use!) it.

Yay.

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